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+FROM ubuntu:24.04
+
+
+#### OPENSSL STUFF ####
+
+ARG OPENSSL_VERSION=3.0.8
+
+# Make the fips module using FIPS-approved openssl 3.0.8
+RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y \
+    make gcc libc-dev  perl vim wget
+
+RUN wget https://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-3.0.8.tar.gz \
+&& tar -xf openssl-3.0.8.tar.gz \
+&& cd openssl-3.0.8 \
+&& ./Configure enable-fips --libdir=lib --prefix=/usr/local --openssldir=/usr/local/ssl \
+&& make \
+&& make install \
+&& make install_fips
+
+
+
+# Add openssl to the path
+ENV PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/bin"
+
+# As per documentation, tests have to be run on every machine that uses
+# openssl in FIPS mode
+WORKDIR "/openssl-3.0.8"
+RUN make tests
+
+# TODO NOTE that we are running tests against /openssl-3.0.8 and not
+# against /usr/local/bin.  Something is wrong with /usr/local/bin still!
+
+# TODO why does this say "/etc/ssl" and not "/usr/local/ssl"?
+RUN echo "GET THE CONF DIRECTORY HERE"
+RUN openssl version -d
+
+
+
+# See https://www.openssl.org/docs/manmaster/man7/fips_module.html
+RUN echo -e '\
+config_diagnostics = 1\n\
+openssl_conf = openssl_init\n\
+\n\
+.include /usr/local/ssl/fipsmodule.cnf\n\
+\n\
+[openssl_init]\n\
+providers = provider_sect\n\
+alg_section = algorithm_sect\n\
+\n\
+[provider_sect]\n\
+fips = fips_sect\n\
+default = default_sect\n\
+\n\
+[default_sect]\n\
+activate = 1\n\
+\n\
+[algorithm_sect]\n\
+default_properties = fips=yes'\
+>> /usr/local/ssl/openssl.cnf
+
+# Just to look at what you think you wrote
+# RUN cat /usr/local/ssl/openssl.cnf
+
+
+# This tells us what versions of openssl we have and if any are FIPs providers
+RUN echo "looking /openssl-3.0.8"
+WORKDIR "/openssl-3.0.8"
+RUN ls -l
+RUN ./util/wrap.pl -fips apps/openssl list -provider-path providers -provider fips -providers
+
+
+
+#### PYTHON STUFF ####
+
+# TODO Note that python does not build successfully with the version of openssl we made above
+# It will build successful with a default installation of openssl
+# The failure says we are missing a half dozen library files with names like lib-devz and lib-zdev, etc.
+# But trying to apk add the listed files results in the same error
+
+# you can specify python version during image build
+ARG PYTHON_VERSION=3.12.2
+
+WORKDIR "/"
+
+# install build dependencies and needed tools
+RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y \
+    wget gcc make zlib1g-dev libffi-dev libssl-dev libc-dev build-essential
+
+
+
+# download and extract python sources
+RUN cd /opt \
+  && wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/${PYTHON_VERSION}/Python-${PYTHON_VERSION}.tgz \
+  && tar xzf Python-${PYTHON_VERSION}.tgz
+
+# build python and remove left-over sources
+RUN cd /opt/Python-${PYTHON_VERSION} \
+  && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-openssl=/openssl-3.0.8 -with-ensurepip=install \
+  && make install \
+  && rm /opt/Python-${PYTHON_VERSION}.tgz /opt/Python-${PYTHON_VERSION} -rf
+
+RUN python3 -m pip install cryptography
+
+# This is a little test everyone uses to see if cryptography is fips-enabled
+#from cryptography.hazmat.backends import default_backend\n\
+RUN echo '\
+from cryptography.hazmat.backends import default_backend\n\n\
+def is_fips_enabled():\n\
+    try:\n\
+        backend = default_backend()\n\
+        fips_mode = backend._fips_enabled\n\
+        return fips_mode\n\
+    except AttributeError:\n\
+        return False\n\
+print(f"IS FIPS ENABLED? {is_fips_enabled()}")'\
+>> ./is_fips_enabled.py
+
+RUN cat ./is_fips_enabled.py
+
+RUN echo "looking /usr/local/bin"
+WORKDIR "/usr/local/bin"
+RUN ls -l
+
+RUN echo "which python?"
+RUN python3 -v
+
+WORKDIR "/"
+RUN echo "TRYING TO RUN is_fips_enabled.py"
+RUN python3 ./is_fips_enabled.py
+
+# This "succeeds" in that there are no errors, but fips says it is not enabled
+# I think this is because we are trying to bolt on cryptography after we build python,
+# and probably we have to build cryptography from source along with python.